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Today , Kenyan Authorities are reporting they have ended an attack at a University there . 147 Students have been slaughtered .

 Those killed were Christians who were  separated out for killing . Al Shabab is affiliated with Al Queda .

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In a better world, a universal force should go and eliminate everyone in that group, as well as every member of buko haram.

But it seems that western powers somehow find it in their interest to leave those Muslim terrorist groups thrive and spread.

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Dot , I don't know how anyone can find it in their interest to allow these groups to spread and thrive .  And I do not pretend to know the motives of any of them , however I can say for certain , that all that can be done to eliminate them ,is definitely not being done . Not only by the Western Powers , but by Regional Powers where they operate .


 It is beyond my imagination to conceive of such minds as of those who perpetrate these horrendous acts .


 It brings to mind something I heard years ago , someone said to me  - "some people just want to see the world burn  " .

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I don't know how anyone can find it in their interest to allow these groups to spread and thrive . .


Its a tried and tested formula: encourage terrorists in places of interest. If there are non, create them. Next, use the media to prepare the public, then go and save the world, and while at it, get the cash/oil/land, whatever.

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I think that's a bit simplistic Dot . No one created the unrest in Syria except Syrians . They were abused by Assad [ just like his father ] and finally revolted - jihadis from around the Globe joined their fight , Al Queda and other groups with their own agenda , joined with the rebels .

    Al Bagdadi decided he will create a Caliphate and he will be the Caliph . Now the cause of the rebels gets lost in sectarian fighting .From this came the opportunity for ISIS to arise . Do you really think ISIS has any concern for the Syrian people who are fighting Assad ? Hardly , they are killing them to .

 And Because ISIS transgressed into Iraq , this brought the Kurds and Iraqis into the fight . So too Iran . So who created ISIS ? If you are implying the west , you are wrong . And that should be clear simply by their own words and actions . You can not blame the west for everything , as people have their own minds , and the minds of ISIS are conceived totally by Al  Bagdadi himself and those who chose to join him .

 I think you know as well as I , that this is morphing into a regional sectarian war, with shifting loyalties. And the trouble in Yemen goes back more than 300 years involving abuse at the hands of the Ottomans . If anyone is using ISIS for their own gain it is the Assad Regime . As for ISIS ? No one but the fanatics of ISIS themselves are responsible for creating ISIS , and no one but the Syrians themselves have brought about their civil war .



For the recent attack in Kenya by Al Shabab of Somalia , there is no oil in Somalia , Al Queda  has created Al Shabab  for it's own purposes . And the trouble in Somalia goes back to the great famine there and the attempts to simply supply them with food . But due to their own internal conflicts , and the fact that the warlords denied delivery of that aid , the US got entangled in a fight with them . There was no creation of terrorists , manipulation of media ,or oil and cash involved .  

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Actually Somalia's history of oil exploration dates back several decades- you should be able to find information about this via a good search.


No doubt oil is something back on the agenda in this region- as  Somalia’s geological formation bears important parallels to that of Yemen, which holds some 9 billion barrels of proven oil reserves.


So I agree with Dot- plenty of stuff to raise eyebrows when forces don't act and wait for the right moment- it is well predicted Somalia may indeed be the next oil boom.

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Actually Somalia's history of oil exploration dates back several decades- you should be able to find information about this via a good search.


No doubt oil is something back on the agenda in this region- as  Somalia’s geological formation bears important parallels to that of Yemen, which holds some 9 billion barrels of proven oil reserves.


So I agree with Dot- plenty of stuff to raise eyebrows when forces don't act and wait for the right moment- it is well predicted Somalia may indeed be the next oil boom.


This does seem a little 'off topic' Regarding so called 'Muslim' activities. I don't see that oil or any thing related to it has anything to do with mass murder of University students - civilians and innocents!


Also btw


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The situation in Somalia  and subsequent attacks on Kenya have  had nothing at all to do with oil .Al Shabbab has joined the ranks of groups like Boko Haram and ISIS .

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You both seem to be batting for the same side and missed the ball...


No one said it had anything to do with OIL- i.e. the killings etc.


It was mentioned that why no foreign forces have played the 'heroes' and come to rid Boko Haram/Al Shabab etc from their mindless oppression.. and it may well be that once the riches of Somalia oil is in full swing.. we may then see the true colours.

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I see your point Doc , but that is an assumption .  Nigeria has oil , and plenty of it , so if oil is the motivator for intervention by foreign entities , then why is nothing being done about Boko Haram ?

  Bush and Cheney are long gone . You can't take one situation and apply it universally . Kenya militarily is weak , and Al Shabbab is supported by Al Queda ,whose members flood into Somalia from around the globe .Who is funding Al  Shabbab ?

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